(Washington Post / Opinions/ October 4, 2012)
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2:07 AM CDT
Yes, Mr. Romney was from the looks of things the dominant debater this time, if you can even call this a debate. It was just two gentlemen out there talking to some vacuum, and neither person was particularly giving out specifics of their plans for the country. And that was the fault mostly of the moderator. Jim Lehrer was for the most part not in control of either candidate or the topics. He let both men ramrod their messages-disguised-as-answers without holding the gentlemen's feet to the fire.
As for the candidates ... Mr. Romney looked super-charged (as if he was on speed) while Mr. Obama displayed detachment or maybe too much caution. It is quite possible he was ceding this debate to Mr. Romney in order to actually get a real sense or feel of the man up close. Mr. Obama is known to be a decent chess player and tends to strategize his moves very carefully. Therefore, it is not unlikely that for him, everything is going pretty close to plan.
I give a win to Mr. Romney on this round but it is not by two touch-downs for sure. He still has a lot of explaining to do about his total reversal of past positions, and the specifics to his current "plan" which is vague and flim-flammy. I suspect Mr. Romney will be making a few more gaffes between now and the next debate, and Mr. Obama will be ready for him with new surprise punches of his own. Then, of-course, Mr. Krauthammer will probably call for a flag on the play (maybe for unnecessary roughness to Mr. Romney).
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FormerET responds to comments by fellow readers of the Krauthammer article ...
M203
1:42 PM CDT
So, how's all that Hope and Change stuff working out?
Obama was less than honest - to be sure.
You vote for the man. All politicians tell you whatever you want to hear - the nature of the beast.
FormerET
2:15 PM CDT
"All politicians tell you whatever you want to hear ..." This is a true statement for 99.99% of politicians.
I am presuming that you are including your candidate here and thereby absolving him of all sins. In effect, what you just did was akin to self-negation or to posing an utterly self-defeating argument.
It is always wise to take a breath and analyze what you are going to say before you say it if you want to make a valid point.
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FXDWG
1:35 PM CDT
The overwhelming liberal meme on this thread is that Romney lied during the debate. Obama's been lying to you for decades. Prove that what Romney said during the debate is untrue. Convince me.
FormerET
1:44 PM CDT
Why bother?. We'll let you wallow in your ignorance for eternity. Your comment about Obama being in the political arena for decades (and lying?!) shows that you are beyond redemption.
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Mr.Genius
1:10 PM CDT
When Romney finished his lie fest on Wednsday night why were so many saying he won the debate? Is lying debating? The President nailed Romney on his tax plan, Romney lied and said that wasn't his plan. The President followed up and correctly summed up Ryan/Romney economics, The President's remarks were unanimously confirmed by fact checkers as accurate. Romney's comments were unanimously fact checked as evasive or inaccurate. So lying and bullying in the great fascist tradition now passes for debate?
The world woke up on Friday morning and the first thing they saw was Romney calling his condemnation of 47% of Americans a "big mistake" and realizing both statements are lies.....then realoizing the whole debate performance (and that's what it was--Wall Street Goes Broadway) was a lie.
Romney's "aggressive stand of October 5, 2012" will be remembered as much as his "debate facts of October 3."
Remember: While saying he would kill PBS, Romney said he liked Big Bird. Think about it.
FormerET
2:30 PM CDT
And at the end of all that lying, there was a small telling moment when Mr. Romney took out a white kerchief and dabbed the perspiration from above the rim of his mouth.
Sort of reminded me of old Richard Nixon (or "Tricky Dick" as he is forever known).
I am now wondering if Romney's hands were sweating and his heart palpitating with adrenalin while the lie factory inside him was in overdrive mode.
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orange_2012a
3:03 AM CDT
Leftists, admit it: your candidate is unsure of himself, not in control, not in command of the facts. He has been a disaster as president. Please join the rest of America and do what is right. Let's make a change here.
FormerET
3:18 AM CDT
Is the "rest of America" the 47% that your man dismissed casual-like?
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orange_2012a
3:08 AM CDT
Are you one of those Obamatons who gets upset when somebody calls the President "Hussein", but it's okay if you make fun of Romney's name? There are many such hypocrites.
FormerET
3:32 AM CDT
C'mon, orange. You do realize you just did the very thing you are accusing others of doing. You are using the cover of quotation marks to get in your punches. Which name-calling is more pernicious, Obama's or Romney's? Really, now?!
M203
1:42 PM CDT
So, how's all that Hope and Change stuff working out?
Obama was less than honest - to be sure.
You vote for the man. All politicians tell you whatever you want to hear - the nature of the beast.
FormerET
2:15 PM CDT
"All politicians tell you whatever you want to hear ..." This is a true statement for 99.99% of politicians.
I am presuming that you are including your candidate here and thereby absolving him of all sins. In effect, what you just did was akin to self-negation or to posing an utterly self-defeating argument.
It is always wise to take a breath and analyze what you are going to say before you say it if you want to make a valid point.
______________________
FXDWG
1:35 PM CDT
The overwhelming liberal meme on this thread is that Romney lied during the debate. Obama's been lying to you for decades. Prove that what Romney said during the debate is untrue. Convince me.
FormerET
1:44 PM CDT
Why bother?. We'll let you wallow in your ignorance for eternity. Your comment about Obama being in the political arena for decades (and lying?!) shows that you are beyond redemption.
_____________________
Mr.Genius
1:10 PM CDT
When Romney finished his lie fest on Wednsday night why were so many saying he won the debate? Is lying debating? The President nailed Romney on his tax plan, Romney lied and said that wasn't his plan. The President followed up and correctly summed up Ryan/Romney economics, The President's remarks were unanimously confirmed by fact checkers as accurate. Romney's comments were unanimously fact checked as evasive or inaccurate. So lying and bullying in the great fascist tradition now passes for debate?
The world woke up on Friday morning and the first thing they saw was Romney calling his condemnation of 47% of Americans a "big mistake" and realizing both statements are lies.....then realoizing the whole debate performance (and that's what it was--Wall Street Goes Broadway) was a lie.
Romney's "aggressive stand of October 5, 2012" will be remembered as much as his "debate facts of October 3."
Remember: While saying he would kill PBS, Romney said he liked Big Bird. Think about it.
FormerET
2:30 PM CDT
And at the end of all that lying, there was a small telling moment when Mr. Romney took out a white kerchief and dabbed the perspiration from above the rim of his mouth.
Sort of reminded me of old Richard Nixon (or "Tricky Dick" as he is forever known).
I am now wondering if Romney's hands were sweating and his heart palpitating with adrenalin while the lie factory inside him was in overdrive mode.
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orange_2012a
3:03 AM CDT
Leftists, admit it: your candidate is unsure of himself, not in control, not in command of the facts. He has been a disaster as president. Please join the rest of America and do what is right. Let's make a change here.
FormerET
3:18 AM CDT
Is the "rest of America" the 47% that your man dismissed casual-like?
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orange_2012a
3:08 AM CDT
Are you one of those Obamatons who gets upset when somebody calls the President "Hussein", but it's okay if you make fun of Romney's name? There are many such hypocrites.
FormerET
3:32 AM CDT
C'mon, orange. You do realize you just did the very thing you are accusing others of doing. You are using the cover of quotation marks to get in your punches. Which name-calling is more pernicious, Obama's or Romney's? Really, now?!
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